JPM * Johnny Pag Motorcycles *

[ragation]

Hey Folks. What can any of you tell me about these Johnny Pag Custom Bikes? :confused:

[Battleax]

Seems like something that might be available at Canadian Tire

[TimP]

Never heard of them until now. Never seen a test. All I know is available on their web site. 300 cc parallel twin, modest power, size and price, available in various styles (cruiser, chopper, sport, standard). If that floats your boat and you're prepared to buy on the basis of manufacturer and dealer promises, go for it!

Maybe CC could do a test someday. (Note I said "could", Neil, not "should", so don't ask me for another 1,200 words. I'm happy to let you and Uwe put these beasts through their paces.)

[KZDon]

Maybe CC could do a test someday. (Note I said "could", Neil, not "should", so don't ask me for another 1,200 words. I'm happy to let you and Uwe put these beasts through their paces.)

Sure, and see how it does on a staircase.

[VIslowpoke]

could be the answer to the lack of a decent sized 300 - 400 cc standard as might have been filled by the CB360 or CB400.

I saw a very nice cafed out CB 350 four in the parkade parked beside my own achingly beautiful bonneville. (That's Victoria BC folks)

Cool bike, all black with flat bars and apparently very rare since my employee looked it up on he internet (though he should have been working)

Only thing I didn't like was the cats face tailight, but hey whatever turns your crank

[TimP]

hey whatever turns your crank

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with 300 cc. A scooter with half the displacement wins the stoplight Grand Prix, so these bikes are plenty big enough to have fun on. My concerns would centre around quality and reliability, issues that have improved considerably since the '60's and earlier. Our expectations are not what they used to be.

[Pinkster]

They are fairly new to the game, most dealers offer a 1 year warranty and JPM may consider bumping that up to 2 years.. you really can't go wrong with the price.. the biggest thing you need to worry about is that most dealerships who sell these are smaller shops and you need to watch the PDI.. a bad PDI can ruin the bike and that wouldn't be covered under warranty so research the shop you get them from.. and make sure to service them like they are recommended..

They have 4 models in Canada Currently.

FX3 which is the Sport
http://www.johnnypag.ca/images/motorcycles/sport_large.jpg
Which retails for about $3699 plus Dealer Costs
Comes in Red or Black

Spyder which is the chopper style
http://www.johnnypag.ca/images/motorcycles/spyder300_large.jpg
Comes in Black, Silver, Pink, white & Red with flames
Retails for $5,399

Barhog Bobber Comes in Red or Black
http://www.johnnypag.ca/images/motorcycles/bobber_large.jpg
Retails for $5,399

Pro Street Comes in Red or Black
http://www.johnnypag.ca/images/motorcycles/prostreet_large.jpg
Retails for $5399

The Earlier Models had some problems, most of which have been addressed in the 09/10 models but it's really a solid, slick bike which takes you to highway speeds safely and they all weigh only 350lbs!

I think the thing that's been holding consumers back from trying them out is that currently they only offer a 6 month warranty(Almost all the dealers offer 1 year on it tho) but in speaking with JPM Canada they might be considering a 2 year warranty instead.

Would that give you more confidence to try one of these out? It sure does for me. They are a sexy bike..

[motrhead]

That FX3 is an interesting little bike. I would love to see a comparison test against the CBR125RR. It could potentially be a step up. Someone should do a test comparing these two bikes and the Hyosung GT250, and maybe the Konker KSM200. Yeah, I can smell a low-buck tour.:D
I used to ride a CB175, so I know that I don't need a 600cc bike to run around town, or even to tour on. I could definitely ride the two bigger bikes.

The bike I really want is the Vento 400 Cafe GT triple. I doubt we will ever see it in Canada, but if we do, it is the small bike that I would be willing to spend my money on. It's a naked air-cooled three cylinder,with 400cc and 34hp, that has been very well developed in Australia -but it's a Chinese bike and I haven't heard of anyone planning to bring it to North America yet. A 400cc 4-stroke triple has always been my dream bike, and now it exists and I can't have one.:(:(

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/10/23/vento-400-cafe-gt-348-pound-400cc-3-cylinder-urban-commuter-from-pts-motors/

[Rocking Couple]

decided to edit out my post because it was a bit too negative (since I learned Pinkster made a purchase today). It will be interesting to see how you make out with it. I hope you have many miles of rewarding rides on your new FX3. Keep us posted. All the best.

[snowman]

My only concern with these bikes would not be the bikes themselves but where and how many dealers will you have access to. If the bike itself turns out to be fairly reliable then parts won't be a concern for a few years, and that's when you need to worry about service and parts access. It's probably not so much the near future you need to worry about but the more distant future when things start wearing out and require replacement. Will the support be there 5-7 years down the road for example? Their concept is good though, offer something unintimidating and simple at a killer price.

[yzf1000jon]

Try and take a 15year old japanese bike into most any dealer nowadays, you'll be shown the rack with the manuals, explained that a days shop rate is worth more than your bike, and asked if you're willing to proceed to pay big money on a bike that may not end up cost effective. I know a few dealers with customer bikes in the basement for a few years because of this very problem. Whether it's chinese/european/or japanese, manufacturer supplies, or dealer network, longevity is always a concern. Manufacturers are required to stock parts for bikes for a relatively short time, some will for longer because it makes money sense, but that's no guarantee, no matter what country of origin.

[Pinkster]

That FX3 is an interesting little bike. I would love to see a comparison test against the CBR125RR. It could potentially be a step up. Someone should do a test comparing these two bikes and the Hyosung GT250, and maybe the Konker KSM200. Yeah, I can smell a low-buck tour.:D
I used to ride a CB175, so I know that I don't need a 600cc bike to run around town, or even to tour on. I could definitely ride the two bigger bikes.

The bike I really want is the Vento 400 Cafe GT triple. I doubt we will ever see it in Canada, but if we do, it is the small bike that I would be willing to spend my money on. It's a naked air-cooled three cylinder,with 400cc and 34hp, that has been very well developed in Australia -but it's a Chinese bike and I haven't heard of anyone planning to bring it to North America yet. A 400cc 4-stroke triple has always been my dream bike, and now it exists and I can't have one.:(:(

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/10/23/vento-400-cafe-gt-348-pound-400cc-3-cylinder-urban-commuter-from-pts-motors/

FYI I went from a CBR125R to the FX3 and it is definately a step up power wise. I personally like the look of the 125 from the side better because its more sport looking. the fx3 is a nice comfortable ride.